Comments on: Getting with it: Test-Driven Development http://jagregory.com/writings/getting-with-it-test-driven-development/ Monkeying with the code Fri, 26 Feb 2010 20:38:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: James Gregory http://jagregory.com/writings/getting-with-it-test-driven-development/comment-page-1/#comment-148 James Gregory Sun, 22 Jul 2007 17:17:34 +0000 http://blog.jagregory.com/2007/07/17/getting-with-it-test-driven-development/#comment-148 hefebia: Not made it that far yet. hefebia: Not made it that far yet.

]]> By: hefebia http://jagregory.com/writings/getting-with-it-test-driven-development/comment-page-1/#comment-147 hefebia Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:47:36 +0000 http://blog.jagregory.com/2007/07/17/getting-with-it-test-driven-development/#comment-147 One question: How did you convince your boss of the usefulness of TDD? One question: How did you convince your boss of the usefulness of TDD?

]]> By: FTorres http://jagregory.com/writings/getting-with-it-test-driven-development/comment-page-1/#comment-131 FTorres Sun, 22 Jul 2007 03:24:09 +0000 http://blog.jagregory.com/2007/07/17/getting-with-it-test-driven-development/#comment-131 My personal path to TDD lead me to write this Experimental test framework www.quickunit.net. Which is a kind of a minimalists approach to test driven development. Feedback welcome. My personal path to TDD lead me to write this Experimental test framework http://www.quickunit.net.

Which is a kind of a minimalists approach to test driven development.

Feedback welcome.

]]> By: Test-drive properly, test fully — James Gregory http://jagregory.com/writings/getting-with-it-test-driven-development/comment-page-1/#comment-118 Test-drive properly, test fully — James Gregory Sat, 21 Jul 2007 09:48:04 +0000 http://blog.jagregory.com/2007/07/17/getting-with-it-test-driven-development/#comment-118 [...] Clarkson left me a link in a comment to one of his posts that ties in quite nicely to my recent Getting with it: Test Driven Development [...] [...] Clarkson left me a link in a comment to one of his posts that ties in quite nicely to my recent Getting with it: Test Driven Development [...]

]]> By: Ricky Clarkson http://jagregory.com/writings/getting-with-it-test-driven-development/comment-page-1/#comment-117 Ricky Clarkson Sat, 21 Jul 2007 01:35:29 +0000 http://blog.jagregory.com/2007/07/17/getting-with-it-test-driven-development/#comment-117 What is the advantage of providing a naive implementation that only passes those cases that the tests test for, rather than leaving it failing until you can provide a 'nice' implementation? My opinion on TDD is covered here: http://rickyclarkson.blogspot.com/2007/05/you-dont-need-tdd-you-need-repl.html What is the advantage of providing a naive implementation that only passes those cases that the tests test for, rather than leaving it failing until you can provide a ‘nice’ implementation?

My opinion on TDD is covered here: http://rickyclarkson.blogspot.com/2007/05/you-dont-need-tdd-you-need-repl.html

]]> By: James Gregory http://jagregory.com/writings/getting-with-it-test-driven-development/comment-page-1/#comment-115 James Gregory Fri, 20 Jul 2007 18:29:37 +0000 http://blog.jagregory.com/2007/07/17/getting-with-it-test-driven-development/#comment-115 Ryan: The mental leap was a big stumbling block for me too, it's easy once you get past it. Ideally you should look into using MVC or MVP to help separate your code into manageable chunks. That's a good place to start. With the logic separated from the presentation, things should be much easier to test. http://www.martinfowler.com/eaaDev/uiArchs.html - MVP http://codebetter.com/blogs/jeremy.miller/archive/2006/02/01/137457.aspx Test Driven Development with ASP.Net and MVP This is something I'd like to write about in the future. Ryan: The mental leap was a big stumbling block for me too, it’s easy once you get past it.

Ideally you should look into using MVC or MVP to help separate your code into manageable chunks. That’s a good place to start. With the logic separated from the presentation, things should be much easier to test.

http://www.martinfowler.com/eaaDev/uiArchs.html – MVP
http://codebetter.com/blogs/jeremy.miller/archive/2006/02/01/137457.aspx Test Driven Development with ASP.Net and MVP

This is something I’d like to write about in the future.

]]> By: Ryan Smith http://jagregory.com/writings/getting-with-it-test-driven-development/comment-page-1/#comment-114 Ryan Smith Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:34:40 +0000 http://blog.jagregory.com/2007/07/17/getting-with-it-test-driven-development/#comment-114 James, Very nice post. I've been trying to get into test driven development, but I've been having a hard time finding a jumping off point. I guess I just need to make the mental leap and get it going. I think this post is pointing me in the right direction. The issue I have is most of my stuff is database driven for the web, and I'm not really sure about the best way to approach testing it. Any ideas of good articles on this subject? Thanks, Ryan. James,

Very nice post. I’ve been trying to get into test driven development, but I’ve been having a hard time finding a jumping off point.

I guess I just need to make the mental leap and get it going. I think this post is pointing me in the right direction.

The issue I have is most of my stuff is database driven for the web, and I’m not really sure about the best way to approach testing it. Any ideas of good articles on this subject?

Thanks,
Ryan.

]]> By: James Gregory http://jagregory.com/writings/getting-with-it-test-driven-development/comment-page-1/#comment-110 James Gregory Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:20:24 +0000 http://blog.jagregory.com/2007/07/17/getting-with-it-test-driven-development/#comment-110 Mike: Great point, never really thought of it that way, but you're certainly right. Mr Cheese: That did occur to me while writing this, but I felt the examples were adequate because the focus was on how to test and not how to write a decent inventory system. Point taken though, more realistic examples needed. Mike: Great point, never really thought of it that way, but you’re certainly right.

Mr Cheese: That did occur to me while writing this, but I felt the examples were adequate because the focus was on how to test and not how to write a decent inventory system. Point taken though, more realistic examples needed.

]]> By: Mr Cheese http://jagregory.com/writings/getting-with-it-test-driven-development/comment-page-1/#comment-109 Mr Cheese Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:15:07 +0000 http://blog.jagregory.com/2007/07/17/getting-with-it-test-driven-development/#comment-109 Nice idea, but the example is too contrived :( I was hoping for a practical example. All you've done is re-type their entire inventory by hand into a test. What if the price of Apples changes? Do they need to recompile their entire stock control system? Nice idea, but the example is too contrived :(

I was hoping for a practical example.

All you’ve done is re-type their entire inventory by hand into a test.

What if the price of Apples changes? Do they need to recompile their entire stock control system?

]]> By: Mike Duncan http://jagregory.com/writings/getting-with-it-test-driven-development/comment-page-1/#comment-107 Mike Duncan Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:11:41 +0000 http://blog.jagregory.com/2007/07/17/getting-with-it-test-driven-development/#comment-107 Sorry, meant Great post JAMES. Sorry, meant Great post JAMES.

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